An Answer from the CIF Team (sort of)

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Community Suggestions <community.suggestions@guardian.co.uk> wrote:
Dear EYEisBloke,

Thanks for getting in touch.

Your comments were blocked and your account pre-moderated as per point 7 of the community standards:
7. We will remove any posts that are obviously commercial or otherwise spam-like. Our aim is that this site should provide a space for people to interact with our content and each other, and we actively discourage commercial entities passing themselves off as individuals, in order to post advertising material or links. This may also apply to people or organisations who frequently post propaganda or external links without adding substantively to the quality of the discussion on the Guardian website.

While we allow commenters to link to sources to back up their arguments, we do not allow repeated links to sites or blogs in a way that appears to be advertising or promoting them. You’ve made 4 links to your blog, one of which was a comment which had no other context beyond a headline and a link to your site.

Pre-moderation is a temporary measure, if you continue to comment within the guidelines set out in the community standards pre-moderation will be removed.

Best regards,

Frank
Community Moderator

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From: Eye is Bloke <eyeisbloke@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Comment is pre (moderated)
To: Community Suggestions <community.suggestions@guardian.co.uk>
Frank,

Thanks for the guidance, this is helpful.

In fairness, I was actually placed in pre-moderation after only two posts that included a link to my blog (not 4). This does strike me as a tad heavy handed.

I can accept the point about the comment with no context other than a headline and the decision to remove it. I’m still struggling to understand how you could consider it to be reasonable to have censored the previous comment which was clearly ‘on topic’ and included a link which was relevant, informative and backed up the particular perspective I was presenting.

If the sole reason for censoring this comment is as you have advised then it would seem fair that you should reinstate it.

Moving beyond this regrettable experience I’d appreciate if you could give me a bit more guidance on getting the right balance when commenting in the future?

I’ve included the relevant FAQ below which gives the impression that it’s OK to link to specific posts on your own blog when it’s appropriate (i.e. contributors are encouraged to include links to content which is revealing, relevant, informative and/or provides more background or context about a particular perspective, situation or topic).

I’m not being funny but the very first time I did this my comment was censored and the second time (accepting that it was a succinct post) I was placed in moderation.

I would like to occasionally include links when they are obviously relevant and ‘on topic’ but I don’t want to be banned from contributing entirely so I really would appreciate some clarity. If it’s helpful I should point out that my blog posts are educational and non commercial.

I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

Best
EiB

Q: Can I link to my own blog?
A: We encourage contributors to the Guardian website to include links to content which is revealing, relevant, informative and/or provides more background or context about a particular perspective, situation or topic. That means it’s OK to link to specific posts on your own blog when it’s appropriate, given the guidelines above.

However, regular linking to any site without providing context or adding value to the conversation (e.g. at the end of every comment) will probably look a lot like spamming, and may cause comments to be deleted.

If you want to ensure people can find your personal site or favourite blog, the best thing to do is to add a link to your profile (click on your username, then Edit Profile, underneath the user icon).

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On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Community Suggestions <community.suggestions@guardian.co.uk> wrote:

We have to uphold the same rules for everyone, if we let you repeatedly advertise your blog we’d have to do the same for other users. I appreciate your blog may be relevant in some cases, but I advise you select excerpts and engage with comments rather than linking to your blog or posting ‘hooks’ to get people to visit your site such as:
‘Have you ever wondered how Gloria De Piero can make 2 + 2.4 = 3.4? http://wp.me/p5wnIA-kf&#8217;

It may appear heavy handed but we receive over 50 000 comments a day and these includes hundreds of people seeking to promote or advertises websites or services, we allow commenters to use sources to back up their arguments, we do not permit people to advertise their own sites in comments. Commenters are welcome to post links to their own sites on their profiles.

Best regards,

Frank
Community Moderator

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From: Eye is Bloke <eyeisbloke@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Comment is pre (moderated)
To: Community Suggestions <community.suggestions@guardian.co.uk>
Frank,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Again, I totally accept your point about the 2 + 2.4 ‘hook’.

Appreciate the additional guidance which I will follow. I think that it is only fair that you update the FAQ I quoted to reflect this new position. At present it currently clearly states that it’s OK to link to specific posts on your own blog when it’s appropriate (i.e. contributors are encouraged to include links to content which is revealing, relevant, informative and/or provides more background or context about a particular perspective, situation or topic).

Also I’d appreciate if you would review two comments I posted on Saturday (about http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/womens-blog/2015/apr/03/why-do-fewer-women-tweet-political-party-hashtags) as follows:

The one that was allowed included a link to my blog so perhaps this should be censored?

The one that was censored didn’t include a link and was entirely ‘on topic’ so I’d appreciate if you would consider approving it?

Once again I appreciate your assistance and guidance but I will be honest and admit that I’m still a little concerned that I’m receiving the pre-moderation treatment because EYEisBloke. 😦

EiB

….still waiting for a reply…

giphy

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